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Old 24-08-2020, 12:34   #3250
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
I don't have to as I'm not making the case for independence. I believe Scotland is better off in both Unions but I don't live there so it's not my decision.

I also need to point out that Nomad King says the figure in question is not £25bn but £12bn and I believe others believe it's even lower.

I'm pointing out that people are allowed to make emotional decisions that might make them financially worse off as they feel the other benefits outweigh the costs. As a Brexiter, I'm surprised that you don't feel at least some empathy with this argument.
The £25bn isn't the correct figure, whatever basis you use, as I pointed out that a chunk of the £25bn figure is UK level taxes originating in Scotland being returned to them. With independence that chunk would go directly to Scotland instead.

The Brexit comparison is bogus, as usual. There is a huge difference between possible financial downsides, which depend on possible agreements with the EU, and cast-iron downsides that are irrespective of any possible agreements. If you were to attempt to compare them, then you would have to add in all the similar possible financial downsides, eg borders and tariffs with the remainder of the UK. Additionally as I've also pointed out, Scotland would automatically lose access to whatever trade deals with the EU or wherever, that the UK might have at the time. As for automatic Scottish membership of the EU, with Brexit that will have gone out of the window. Scotland are no longer part of the EU, that happens to break away from the UK. They are currently not in the EU. It is no longer comparable to Catalonia, which is still part of the EU.

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