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Originally Posted by Chris
... which is why the whole separatist case is nuts. It’s just a short hop, skip and a jump from here, to seps convincing themselves, and then each other, that Westminster is the Wastemonster, which has racked up debts against Scotland’s will, and which Scotland therefore has the right to walk away from. Righteous fury is magnified in the echo chamber of places like Twatter and Wingnuts over Scotland, and then leaks out onto the more open and balanced bits of the internet (Like right here) where said Nats simply can’t understand why their devastating logic isn’t accepted at face value.
I have read nothing here in recent days that wasn’t posted, and rebutted, in this thread a thousand times over in the run up to 2014. All the usual self-serving arguments are in play, suggestions that every argument for the union will be received on “the doorstep” with outrage and new converts to separation, suggestions that Scotland is trapped in an English empire, suggestions that Scotland has a right to expect to break up the union and walk away with its share of the assets but without its share of the debt ... absolute bat crazy nonsense.
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I’m 100% certain it’s the same arguments. That has always been my point.
There’s no compelling case for the Union to a 21st century Scotland. All you’ve got is old unionists dying and independence voters joining the electorate. Like Sinn Fein realises victory will be found in the ballot box, with shifting views, younger people not as entrenched in the past. “Daddy voted Labour, Grandad voted Labour” etc.
I’ve not read anything in recent days of any interest either. However it’s not my side facing a losing battle.
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Originally Posted by nomadking
The SNP at Westminster is the same party as the SNP at Holyrood. Are you saying that the SNP are in favour of cutting corporation tax, but only if it's Scotland only and not the UK. Where do they say that? 
The Scots are in control of their own excess deficit. They are in control of a £52bn budget.
COVID 19 revised budget
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I’m saying that the rational decisions of SNP MPs in votes affecting the UK would be different from those by MSPs in an independent Scotland. After all, there’d be no Barnett Formula or trucks of UK Government investment crossing the border - evidenced of course by our great prosperity - so they’d need to get creative.
Can I ask why you care? I got lambasted by a Scottish member about whether I was resident in Scotland or not. There’s a great whiff of English exceptionalism in this thread.