Thread: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Old 22-08-2020, 14:23   #3206
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
The same place any Government gets its money from - taxation. It’s entirely speculative to say that Scotland would automatically have an unsustainable deficit or be unable to borrow. It’s also speculative to say that Scotland couldn’t reform it’s taxation system to make it more competitive against other countries (including the EU countries) to facilitate investment.

I agree it’s less than ideal for England to be governed in such a way. English independence would be an excellent idea - win win for everyone. Unless of course, there’s more to it and all is not as it seems with the figures given by London.
I'm sure the Scots would welcome a massive increase in their taxes! And it would have to be massive just to keep their budget balanced as it is now.

God, there would be even more economic migrants, this time from Scotland, if the SNP gets their way.

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
The good news is Old Boy you’re exactly part of the problem I describe for unionism in Scotland. Unionists howling into an echo chamber of unionism. Fundamentally, as a resident of England and presumably someone born there, you seek to deny the people of Scotland their right to choose their destiny.

Democracy cannot be cynically manipulated if people consistently vote for Governments on a mandate to do something. In 2021 this wouldn’t be a one of wheeze, it would follow the mandate from 2017, and independence would require a mandate of its own following that.

That is, unfortunately, democracy in action.

You believe England bankrolls Scotland, yet want to continue to do so against the will of the people of Scotland. Please come up to Scotland and campaign on this basis. I’ll even pay you. It’ll be hilarious.
So you think it's ok to repeat referendums time and again until you get the result you want? That is what is cynical. Don't you think we can see through that?

The people of Scotland have already chosen, so I am not denying them anything. You are seeking to trample all over the wishes of a democratic vote, just as the remainers attempted to do over Brexit.

I notice that you haven't denied that England 'bankrolls' Scotland, because you can't, it's a fact.
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