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Old 22-08-2020, 14:07   #3202
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
I don’t have to agree. All that would be required would be the people to elect a Government that seeks to rejoin the UK. That’s how our democracy works. Elected representatives get mandated to carry out policies - until such times as the electorate gets bored and votes for someone else.

Had the Liberal Democrats won the UK general election (no laughing at the back) they could have revoked article 50 or held a second referendum. As it stands the public got bored of their campaign and they paid the price. However, that’s the mechanics of democracy in the UK.

The SNP will get their referendum if they decisively win next years SP elections.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that the reason you don’t want a further referendum is lack of confidence in winning. If there was any confidence you’d welcome it, as losing the next referendum is about the only thing that looks to break SNP dominance of Scottish politics in the near/medium term.

Again though this is the kind of debate that isn’t going to sway the 50% of SNP voters. They believe Scotland has a right to choose its own destiny and vote for them on that basis.
Another big assumption you have made against someone who disagrees with you.

It is difficult to deny that referendums are very divisive and create tensions, even within families. The Brexit referendum and its immediate aftermath was extremely damaging and the last Scottish independence referendum was equally damaging.

Those people who are demanding another referendum will never accept the result if it goes against them. Win it, and that's it, no further discussion!

This is such a childish wheeze and everyone can see through it for what it is. I was quite happy to have the Scottish and Brexit referendums at the time, but I am dead against repeating them over and over until the 'right' result is obtained, which of course, would then be 'final'. My opposition to further referendums, and I suspect most people of common sense, is nothing to do with any fear of losing. What I cannot abide is this cynical manipulation of democracy, which is what this is, and you know that.
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