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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
I don't need to explain because I'm not making the case for it. But even if you're making the case for something, you don't necessarily need to go into exquisite detail at the pitch stage. You leave that for someone else to sort out at the delivery stage.

That being said, I'm sure there's nothing unique about Scotland that would prevent it from being a successful independent country.
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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
I don’t have to agree. All that would be required would be the people to elect a Government that seeks to rejoin the UK. That’s how our democracy works. Elected representatives get mandated to carry out policies - until such times as the electorate gets bored and votes for someone else.

Had the Liberal Democrats won the UK general election (no laughing at the back) they could have revoked article 50 or held a second referendum. As it stands the public got bored of their campaign and they paid the price. However, that’s the mechanics of democracy in the UK.

The SNP will get their referendum if they decisively win next years SP elections.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that the reason you don’t want a further referendum is lack of confidence in winning. If there was any confidence you’d welcome it, as losing the next referendum is about the only thing that looks to break SNP dominance of Scottish politics in the near/medium term.

Again though this is the kind of debate that isn’t going to sway the 50% of SNP voters. They believe Scotland has a right to choose its own destiny and vote for them on that basis.

A referendum will only be held if it clear that it can be won.

50/50 won’t cut it and there would have be a clear margin of error. To lose a second referendum would indeed end it for a generation or more.

There may well be a 2nd referendum in our lifetime but it is a joker to be played wisely as it would be The last time It’s played for a long Long time.
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