[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

Nursing homes* and Local Council' Services are the same thing, and, along with UK high streets, have been feeling the pinch long before we 'left' the EU.

I remember reading a few months ago that even the Germans were putting the boot (no pun intended) into their own car companies.

I see once again you're concerned about the 'British services' being hit . . . job on the line mate?

*unless you mean private nursing homes are badly run

Nursing homes aren't run by councils are they hence my including it though I appreciate some of their funding may come via councils. I did not link the high street decline to leaving the EU, I linked it to where we could be spending money.

I don't work in the service sector but I think in the current situation many jobs aren't safe, something a no-deal Brexit will only add to. But I hasten to add that's theoretical - Boris will agree to the EU's position when the time is right. As he's done to date.

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Originally Posted by Carth

You need a couple of fence panels between those posts, stops things slipping through

More post there than the Royal Mail! Well spotted.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Your big mistake, Andrew, is assuming that the EU is the only solution to be part of a bigger market, and you completely fail to understand that the EU is making unreasonable demands of us to get a no-tariff trade deal. To accept these demands would undermine our sovereignty and undermine the benefits of Brexit.

There are other trading blocs we could join. The most obvious to me is the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Prtnership (CPTPP), which already comprises 11 countries including Japan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Malaysia, Mexico and Peru. If Britain joined, this would comprise 16% of global commerce. That's bigger than the EU, and it is fast growing as a productive group of nations, whereas the EU is expected to decline.

The CPTPP is expected to generate about 25% of trade by 2050, whereas the poorly performing EU will manage only 10%. If we want a tariff-free deal, we could do a lot worse than joining the CPTPP. Why are posters on this forum not talking about opportunities such as these instead of bemoaning our departure of the failing EU? GB is not a one-trick pony and Liz Truss is already forging ahead with negotiations to join the much more promising CPTPP while continuing to seek trade deals with the US and others.

Old Boy, the EU has free trade deals with many of those countries anyway plus lots, lots more so a deal with that bloc is just trying to retain a little of what we have already.

Your big opportunity is to understand the economic gravity of trade which explains why most trade takes place with neighbouring countries. https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/to-in...model-of-trade

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Originally Posted by jfman

Is this the new one after China and the US deals look in peril?

Do you also remember when people were confidently lining up to predict that other countries were about to leave the EU? I think I noted Ireland, Spain, Italy and the Netherlands tipped at one time or the other.