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Old 21-07-2020, 14:20   #54
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

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The ISC's inquiry covers a number of topics, including disinformation campaigns, cyber tactics and Russian expatriates in the UK - saying the UK was a "top target" for the state.
But much of the "highly sensitive" detail will not be published due to fears Russia could use the evidence to threaten the UK.
So no "disinformation campaigns" originated elsewhere? No expatriates, Scottish or otherwise, did anything? So who influenced the polls in the years before, that have tended to be close either way? Eg Support for Brexit existed long before even the possibility of a referendum.

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The report also said there had been "credible open source commentary" suggesting Russian tried to influence the Scottish independence referendum in 2014.
So where exactly is the evidence that anything happened? No signs of what those events and actions are meant to have been.

Difficult to retrospectively gather examples.
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Catalonia is probably the place outside of the UK where Scotland's referendum had, and still has, most resonance.
So no interference from Spain?
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The victory for the "No" vote will please many of Canada's editorial writers, most of whom came down firmly on the side of Scotland staying with the union.
So no interference from Canada?
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But in the run-up to the vote, Premier Li Keqiang stressed that he wanted to see a "united" United Kingdom.
Privately at least, China's leaders will welcome the "No" vote.
Or China?
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"I'm hugely relieved," said one politician. "It prevents further fragmentation of Europe."
The government agrees - though the official line is less exuberant.
"We have always respected the fact that this referendum was called and that the central government in London agreed to this. And now we respect the outcome of it as well," said Angela Merkel.
Is she pleased with the result? The German chancellor was coy. "I will not comment on this but just smile."
Or Germany?
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Former Prime Minister Enrico Letta tweeted (in Italian): "Scotland has decided. Good for us and for Europe. Now let's not ignore the intolerance and fears which encourage separatists."
Italy?
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The news that Scotland is not going to leave the UK will mean many governments are heaving a sigh of relief.
Some feared that Scottish independence might encourage other separatist movements. Others worried that it would turn the rest of the UK into a weaker and distracted partner.
Sounds like not many governments around the world, were for one reason or another, in favour of Scottish independence.

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So far, the signs are not encouraging. The Spanish government reacted to the Scottish government's December Brexit plan by saying: "If the UK leaves the single market, the whole UK will leave the single market." The main question for the SNP may thus be whether Spain wields the influence it claims it does.
The second is Ireland. The UK government is desperate to find a way to keep the border between the Republic and Northern Ireland open, and no one is more supportive than the SNP. If it works in Ireland, it can work in Gretna Green. (Irish political leaders gave Sturgeon a warm welcome when she visited in November).
Finally, there is Germany. SNP insiders believe it is crucial to Scotland's chances of staying in the EU (David Cameron, who wooed the Chancellor Angela Merkel during his EU negotiations, might disagree). They claim that Europe’s giant is sympathetic to their predicament. Indeed, Manfred Weber, a Bavarian ally of Merkel, said after the Brexit vote: “Those who want to stay are welcome in the European Union.” Merkel’s attack dog Gunther Krichbaum made similar noises.
No "interference" from Spain, Ireland, and Germany?
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