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Originally Posted by nomadking
What is this "interference" ever have amounted to? Just people expressing an opinion? Do no other countries ever "interfere" in the same way?  Then there is the rather insidious way the media "interferes". Even the inclusion of an extra word in a sentence can change the tone and impression of a story. Journalists can be rather selective on who and what they challenge about a story.
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Whether you plan to vote Tories or not, whether you voted Brexit or not, the outcomes of those decisions have a direct impact on the world. Some countries will benefit from those outcomes, some will lose out.
If you're one of those countries that will benefit greatly from a specific outcome, it's in your interests to try and make that outcome happen. I mean this isn't just world politics, it's like anything - if you stand to gain from something happening, you probably want that something to happen.
But if you speak out too loudly about it, it might make things worse. Just because it benefits you doesn't necessarily mean that those voting for it want it for
your interests, they might even vote against it to spite you because what's good for you isn't necessarily what's good for them. Politics, eh?
So in that case, how do you make this outcome happen, without tipping anyone off that actually you really want this outcome?
Find someone else to do it. Find someone that people aren't immediately opposed to and give them the help to do it. Maybe it's a research firm, or a think tank, or a politician with aspirations of becoming PM - you get them to do the dirty work so you get what you want without anyone knowing you wanted it. British people wanting what's best for Britain. Sounds great, right?
And the best bit is that those who voted for all of this will fight anyone who dares suggest they've been influenced, because it's not like Vladmir was down the pub mouthing off to them about how great Brexit would be for mother russia. Nah, it was their mate Nige that said it, he's definitely not russian so russia has nothing to do with it. Simples.
But in all of this, whether you believe there was "influence" or not, whether you believe
you were influenced or not, that's almost not even the point. Whether Russia had any involvement or success isn't the main issue -
the main issue is that they wanted that outcome.
Debate the ifs and buts all you want, but make sure you ask
why.
Why would Russia go to such lengths? What have they got to gain from a stronger, more independent Britain, eh? What's useful for them if the Tories are in power, if the Tories don't have links to Russia?
Surely Russia would much prefer
communist Corbyn, right? Right?! Surely he'd be destroying the UK from within, while setting up shop for his commie mates to swoop in and take over. Maybe the commie thing is too much on the nose, but seriously - why would Russia have the UK's best interests to heart?