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Originally Posted by Chris
You keep telling yourself that if it makes you happy, but in the real world democracy is the least worst means of making decisions despite the fact that it almost always operates on a plurality rather than an outright majority. I don’t believe for one second that you would be making this same argument had the referendum results been precisely reversed.
Active Euro-enthusiasm in the U.K. is and always has been a niche pursuit, just as active Euro-scepticism is. The difference is that the euro-enthusiasts, mostly of the metropolitan, soft liberal left whose connection to the population at large is tenuous at the best of times, smugly assumed that the indifferent masses agreed with them. This has always been their weakness. The sceptics, however, understood that there was genuine anger at various economic and social changes in society and they believed they could motivate the masses to support them if they could show how our EU membership was culpable for those changes.
This they did, the rest is history.
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Succinctly put Chris. The big problem, Ianch99 has, is that he is consistently window dressing the idea that it was only the leave campaigns playing dirty, cheating. History recalls that both campaigns played by the same rules.
Remain alliance wheeled out Obama, with back of queue bullshit, that leaving would cause WW3, there would be 500,000 job losses the day after a leave result, that there would be a recession. All lies to scare and to garner votes. That’s how campaigns work, no political campaign is completely clean, and yeah it’s unfortunate.
Then the real dirty tricks by the Hard Remain alliances, criminal investigations launched against the likes of Arron Banks, Darren Grimes and others, who have now been cleared of any wrong doing. Basically, this was some sly attempt to discredit and nullify the result, because it didn’t go their way.
So the country for years kept hearing how the UK was conned in to voting leave, but then several other elections took place, two General Elections and a European Election, in that result, the UK sent to Brussels the Brexit Party with the most MEP Seats. Two other elections saw the nation, swaying to parties or party in 2017, 2019 that would carry out the UK’s wish to leave the EU, and yet this still don’t convince the likes of Ianch99 that the country has mandated its wish to leave the European Union.
I remember a Downing Street petition that had amassed 6 million signatures, to cancel and or revoke A50, though I recall it was possible to sign it several times. Then Echos rang out from Brussels trying to convince UK Government to think again screeching about the petition and how many had signed it, one had to question in what universe did 6 million beat 17.4 million?
Extensions given time and again, only to serve a purpose, they wanted the UK to have another referendum, because they didn’t like the first result and basically that’s how the EU expects democracy to roll in their world, to keep on voting until it gets the result it desires. That is not a true democracy. The UK showed the EU, no, we’ve voted, you got your answer, it now gets implemented.