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**Chris** · 11-07-2020, 14:23

Latest findings from the Department of the Bleeding Obvious ... country which voted to stop subcontracting its affairs to a supranational organisation, stops subcontracting its affairs to a supranational organisation.

Seriously, people - are we going to do the EU angle with any and every international trade/regulation story that comes up, forever? I try to avoid saying this, but really, please get over it.

HMG is not throwing its lot in with the EU scheme for the very reasons we left the EU in the first place - being in, prevents us continuing to act in our own interests even where they may diverge from those of the EU. And while we remain in the transition phase, throwing our lot in with the EU is even worse because it weds us to their decisions without the ability to influence them. As a general rule we shouldn’t be opting in to anything the EU does unless and until we’re on a post-transition treaty footing with them, that assures us *if* we participate in one of their schemes, we have fair and reasonable input into how it works. If that’s too much for the EU and no treaty is possible, then we go our own way, do our own thing, and for goodness sake can we stop going over this confected outrage every time.

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Chris Trollsplatter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North of Watford Services: Humane elimination of all common Internet pests Posts: 38,122	Re: Coronavirus Latest findings from the Department of the Bleeding Obvious ... country which voted to stop subcontracting its affairs to a supranational organisation, stops subcontracting its affairs to a supranational organisation. Seriously, people - are we going to do the EU angle with any and every international trade/regulation story that comes up, forever? I try to avoid saying this, but really, please get over it. HMG is not throwing its lot in with the EU scheme for the very reasons we left the EU in the first place - being in, prevents us continuing to act in our own interests even where they may diverge from those of the EU. And while we remain in the transition phase, throwing our lot in with the EU is even worse because it weds us to their decisions without the ability to influence them. As a general rule we shouldn’t be opting in to anything the EU does unless and until we’re on a post-transition treaty footing with them, that assures us if we participate in one of their schemes, we have fair and reasonable input into how it works. If that’s too much for the EU and no treaty is possible, then we go our own way, do our own thing, and for goodness sake can we stop going over this confected outrage every time.