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Nomadking I’m absolutely appalled by your denial of science here. Seriously, what do you gain from such misinformation? I accept I’ve been controversial at times throughout this thread yet have general agreement from notional adversaries Seph, Carth, and to a lesser extent Pierre.
Steps need to be taken. Yes we can disagree about what normal might look like, or the timescale, fine. But masks, quarantine, these are all part of the future.
This isn’t Conservative v Labour, capitalism v socialism. Capitalism dies in its arse when consumers are dying off and families are paying for premature funerals. As you asked, is that money better off spent elsewhere?
Collective bargaining not worthy of reply. Again narrow view of single transaction economics.
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Denial of science? My Biochemistry days may have been a long time ago.
Is singing banned in a lot of places, not just the UK? Yes or No?
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He added: “Singing and chanting are not allowed even at a distance due to the additional risk of infection and woodwind and brass instruments should not be used, but that does still leave many other instruments.”
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Even shouting is a problem.
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Current evidence suggests that COVID-19 spreads between people through direct, indirect (through contaminated objects or surfaces), or close contact with infected people via mouth and nose secretions. These include saliva, respiratory secretions or secretion droplets. These are released from the mouth or nose when an infected person coughs, sneezes, speaks or sings, for example.
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Simply breathing or talking may be the most common ways the coronavirus spreads, a study suggests.
Chinese scientists found Covid-19 patients exhale millions of viral particles per hour, even if they have mild or no symptoms. ...
Like most respiratory illnesses, the highly-infectious disease is spread in tiny droplets of moisture that carry viral particles.
It was previously thought that the main source of transmission was via these droplets from coughs and sneezes.
But the latest finding suggests the coronavirus can spread just as easily in aerosols in the breath and may explain why it has managed to rapidly race around the world.
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Am I wrong on the maths of Ballistics? Yes or No?
As the firms are saying they are not going to seek profits, the notion of collective bargaining is nonsense. Even if bidding was a factor, as we would be effectively paying for others, the price per dose that
we could use would be higher. In that situation we would be able to instead use the extra to outbid others.
As my quote pointed out.
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We would have joined the EU scheme if they had allowed us also to continue with our own negotiations, but one of the conditions of the scheme was that we would have had to stop our own negotiations and only do them through the European Commission and we weren’t prepared to do that.
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