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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I've explained that it's not binary and you would have to examine the context. For example, if a record producer sang it the singer to emphasise a different way of singing a verse, then that would not be offensive. However, if a known white racist sang it then that would likely be offensive. It's about empathy and putting yourself in another's shoes - not looking for a binary answer to nuanced issues.

Originally posted by Carth:
so . . . an Irishman can tell jokes about the Irish, a Jew can tell jokes about Jews, a black person can tell jokes about black people . . . and a white person can't laugh if he hears them

Response by Andrew:
The first two people could well be white and laughing at the jokes.
If you wanted to simplify it, it's more in the person telling the joke than the person laughing at it.

Carth gave a spot on example of what's so absurd about PC and woke-ism. So, what about the empathy of the listener (second higlights sentence)? It don't think you're being consistent.

Exactly what are you advocating? No queer jokes? No ethnic jokes? No emulating foreign accents (of which I'm expert)?

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Originally Posted by Carth

I see we're all still going round in those wonderful circles that make discussions so amusing . . . isn't it great how one single post can cause so much angst and general whataboutery


*checks the latest from Yellowstone & NASA

I wrote in this thread yonks ago that it had run its course and was heading nowhere. I was told, basically, that this viewpoint is the prerogative of those running the forum.