|  08-07-2020, 15:21 | #4483 | 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  With the tests that weren’t available, and they had to get them out of hospital very quickly to make beds available?
 Thoughtless unprofessional negligent medics not doing tests that weren’t widely available...
 |   The tests WERE available. It's just that they were kept for just people showing symptoms. No different to many other countries, and that DOES include South Korea. 
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		| In South Korea as in Italy, an early case of COVID-19 was identified  when a medical officer followed their intuition, rather than the  official guidelines, on testing. 
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 Like the patient named Mattia in Italy, the woman had no known links to  Wuhan, the Chinese province where the disease was first identified. And  as in Italy, the doctors’ decision to recommend a test went against  guidelines at the time to test people who had been to China or been in  contact with a confirmed case, said Korea Medical Association’s Choi  Jaewook.
 |  Even Germany and South Korea had shortages of PPE and testing kits.
 
An independent report placed the UK, 2nd best prepared for a pandemic. 
 
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		| But even as the risk of such outbreaks increases, no country — the  United States included — is fully prepared to respond to a deliberate or  accidental threat with the potential to wipe out humanity, according to  a report assessing the efforts of 195 countries. ...
 
 Thailand, for  example, is the only non-high-income country to rank in the top tier  overall — sixth highest overall after the United States, United Kingdom,  the Netherlands, Australia and Canada.
 |  Another independent report found that the NHS had a £100m stockpile of items ready for a pandemic. Although it didn't say what items.
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		| It says that in the last few years the government spent £424 million on  stockpiling Tamiflu in case of a flu pandemic. However, there is little  agreement as to how effective the drug is, particularly in preventing  complications and deaths from flu. |  From 2007 report by British Thoracic Society.
 
	A "What If" article from 2018.Quote: 
	
		| In the event of a pandemic, the following additional care settings may have to be considered as the threshold for hospital
 admission rises:
 treatment of patients in the community (who would
 normally receive care from a GP) by other healthcare
 professionals (nurses, paramedics, pharmacists, etc) following
 treatment guidance laid out in this publication and using
 prescription-only medicines according to Patient Group
 Directives
 treatment of patients in their own homes or in temporary
 intermediate care facilities by a GP, following treatment
 guidance laid out in this publication when, under normal
 circumstances, such patients would have been admitted for
 hospital care
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		| As history attests, deaths probably would not be evenly distributed  across populations. The Spanish flu saw a 30-fold mortality difference  in various countries. In India, for example, the virus took out 8% of  the population, while less than 1% died in Denmark. Similarly, during  the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, deaths in Mexico exceeded those in France by a  factor of 10. Experts believe the disparities were influenced by a  number of factors, including a population’s prior exposure to similar  influenza strains and genetic vulnerabilities of certain ethnic groups  (New Zealand’s native Maori, for example, were seven times more likely  to die after contracting the 1918 flu than the global average).
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