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Old 07-07-2020, 20:28   #4439
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Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by ianch99 View Post
Have you only just woken up to this truth? There is no spin, it was government policy on 19 March to send hospital patients back into care homes, without making it mandatory for them to be tested for Covid-19. This is a fact.
The fact that the government didn't make it 'mandatory' does not excuse a so-called 'professional' health service from sending infected patients back into care homes! The professionals I worked with during my employment have all had their own professional codes of practice. Does the NHS not have one that provides that no-one with a highly contageous and deadly disease should be discharged into the community? If not, why not?

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
I’m sure they would, and I’m certain some members of the forum would be positively frothing at the mouth with incredulity if it was a Labour Government right now. However, as some lack objectivity it leads to circuitous debates about herd immunity, airport screening, testing, facemasks, “it’s a mild flu”, it’s much more prevalent than we thought, it’ll go away in the summer and raking over the same old debates.

By criticising the Government that delivered Brexit we immediately get tarred with equating an efficient public health response as a remainery conspiracy. Which it isn’t, however we are fighting against a narrative that’s difficult to control give the tendency of some to selectively quote, obfuscate or simply ignore reality when it suits. Government does the bidding of scientists and agencies, not the other way round apparently.

I find it easier to simply move on because the proof is in the pudding with the death figures and imminent economic recession, there will be plenty of time for a damning public enquiry in due course.

While some pretend “normal” is just a case of Boris standing up there and pretending all is fine, most on the forum now accept that without a health driven response necessary that the economy tanks either way. Even Pierre now accepts that managing the numbers carefully is a necessity.
It's you who is going round in circles, jfman. There is no proof of anything with the figures. They are a correct statement of current figures, but you keep putting them in the context of deaths in other countries, who compile their figures in different ways. Moreover, the virus is still out there - the most recent serious outbreak is in Melbourne, which threatens the whole of Australia with a second peak. This will keep happening until the 'herd immunity', which you dismiss so casually, is achieved.

Don't expect a vaccine any time soon. We may have scientists all over the world working on it, but we have not found an effective one against any coronovirus yet, and we are unlikely to in the foreseeable future.

The virus is here to stay until it is finished with us. We either prolong the agony or we acknowledge it for what it is, protecting the vulnerable.

The time to judge is when this is over. This is nothing to do with Brexit.
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