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Old 06-07-2020, 22:53   #4425
jfman
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Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Paul View Post
Herd immunity is not "discredited", nor is it a theory.

If you lock down everyone for 3+ months then of course not many people are going to get immune, you cannot develop immunity unless you are exposed in the first place.

Herd immunity is a fact, and works, but only if the "herd" is exposed in the first place, which we are not prepared to do.
Well that’s my point - we aren’t prepared to do it given the human cost. It’s not a viable (and has been discredited as a) solution previously with modelling, but now that stance is supported by antibody testing. Antibody testing that, of course, was once hailed as the solution for opening back up - certifying those who have had the virus and proving we were further on in the epidemic than we actually are.

We have locked everyone down for 3+ months to stop the NHS being overrun. Exposing significant numbers to the virus quickly results in this happening.

It was only a solution if the number of people that get serious complications is small. The last hope for that idea was those clinging to the notion that there’s a disproportionately significant number of asymptomatic infections. Which is not the case.

Herd immunity by letting the virus loose is tantamount to euthanising AIDS sufferers (101,600 estimated sufferers) and claiming the UK has eradicated AIDS. Again, not something I’d view as genuinely credible.

Achieving herd immunity by vaccination of course is realistic, and scientifically proven.
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