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Old 02-07-2020, 13:12   #3019
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post

Why on earth would Boris be "happy ...."? That is unqualified prejudice.
I'll qualify it then - he did say "F---- business."

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
Judging the moment when to balance the comments is a handy art. It converts a one sided projection into one that reasonably makes allowance for other possibilities.

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What is your perspective on this? What do you mean by "divide" and what is the consequence to the country of this perceived "divide"?

I've been a Conservative Party member since 1983 with no self-made wealth and nothing inherited (then not massive) until 8 years ago.

The only divide I've noticed is pro-EU & anti-EU. Back in 1995, the "divide" was such that when John Redwood challenged John Major for leadership of the party, his Leave wing only amounted to 27% of the 307 voted MPs.

25 years later, John's got his wish and my sense of the party as a whole (but of course I haven't met them all) is that we are united in the current track.

The British electoral system means the two main parties have a broad church of opinions which in other countries would form separate political parties. We've seen this with Jeremy Corbyn and Sir Keir Starmer - two distinct Labour Parties.
The Conservative Party is home to traditional free traders who might have voted Whig back in the day. So, that's people like Margaret Thatcher, pro-privatisation and free trade.
It's also home to the traditional landowners, family companies etc who favour a more protectionist approach and are not so against state intervention. That's represented by the current Government.
Of course, it's far more nuanced than this but I've already drifted off topic.
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