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Originally Posted by jfman
The point of Brexit is to get trading conditions more favourable to us
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Not quite right: the point is to get conditions favourable to a small but powerful elite. For the majority of the country, it will be unfavourable on many levels.
The double whammy here (or triple if you count Covid) is that the people how are attempting to pursue this mission are part of this incompetent Vote Leave Government. So we are left with the equation to pursue a flawed mission implemented by idiots.
That's going to go well ..
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
The only divide I've noticed is pro-EU & anti-EU. Back in 1995, the "divide" was such that when John Redwood challenged John Major for leadership of the party, his Leave wing only amounted to 27% of the 307 voted MPs.
25 years later, John's got his wish and my sense of the party as a whole (but of course I haven't met them all) is that we are united in the current track.
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You are failing to consider the relativity of your perspective, which is understandable. You assume that the Conservative Party's moral and social compass has remained constant and all that has happened is that the Party has been persuaded of the merits of a Hard Brexit. What has in fact happened is that the Party has moved appreciably to the right, driven by Brexit zealotry.
Compared to the Tory Party of the 50's & 60's, this version is a pale but dangerous imitation ..