Thread: Black Lives Matter
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Old 21-06-2020, 16:43   #637
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
The thing is there isn't a law that specifically targets minority groups. It's people, and their interpretation of said laws. White, able bodied, heterosexual men don't experience the downside of such unconscious, or even conscious, bias.

Admirable in it's ignorance of the divisions within society, cross cutting race, class, political standing, gender, age.

I'd say the opposite. While the older, more ignorant, generations are dying out the flag of nationalism is stoking up divisions around the world at the minute. Given the failure of capitalism, and globalisation, to generate wealth that everyone has a stake in such divisions will only continue.

Who can possibly resent someone who simply wants equality? As said white, heterosexual, able-bodied man. It'd be extremely ignorant of me to claim that everyone has exactly the same opportunities as me in education or employment. And the reasons are entirely structural. Who wouldn't be pissed off if the game was fundamentally rigged against them?
There are laws that deal with race discrimination, sex discrimination, disability discrimination, religious discrimination, etc. This creates resentment from a part of the population who do not feel that they have any protection. We need just one law that guarantees fairness for everyone, and that will do wonders for attitudes. Just as we've seen arguments that 'all lives matter' to the current BLM campaign. Exclude a section of society from a perceived benefit and you enhance divisions instead of eliminating them.

You confuse 'nationalism' with 'racism'. There is nothing wrong with being proud of one's country, which does not mean that those with such beliefs are racists. You are dragging capitalism and globalism into this argument - are you attempting to dilute the message? Of course you are. I agree that capitalism and globalism could be better managed, but that has nothing to do with racism, which is what this is all about.

As for saying 'who can possibly resent someone who simply wants equality?, now that is a pretty naive thing to say. Whether or not you think that is perverse, nevertheless many people do hold that view, and I have seen it first hand. Clearly, minority groups are at a disadvantage, but creating laws just for them is the wrong way to go about it.

Notice I didn't call you 'ignorant' for disagreeing with a perfectly sensible post.
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