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Old 11-06-2020, 16:29   #325
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Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
I'm fearful of woke people dominating what we can say and what we can't; woke people deciding which statues can stand, who is racist and whom we are allowed to parody.

As to Churchill, remember people are influenced by their environment of the time. His pronouncements of 120 years ago are insignificant when compared with his effort in winning the war against Germany. These anarchists should not be dragging his name into the mud.


First of all thank you for answering. The whole point of this is honest and painful discussion.

To take your comments

1) Who is saying what you can and can't say, I don't remember at any point BLM saying that you were only allowed to say certain things.

2) Why shouldn't 'woke' people be allowed to have a say? They're not attempting to dictate (well, the majority aren't)

3) Why can't people state if they believe someone to be racist? Surely they have as much right to say they are as you do to say they are not.

4) Nobody in BLM has forced anyone Netflix etc. to take content down. That's the providers own doing. Various celebs have said that looking back they wouldnt have produced that content now and that they don't think it's suitable.

5) I don't think anyone would disagree that people are shaped by their environments. But that doesn't mean what happened was acceptable. It certainly doesn't mean it should be celebrated. Child marriage for example existed in the same period as slavery. Would you dismiss that as acceptable due to previous times?

BLM are asking people to pause, think, consider the past, educate themselves, and for us to progress as a society so that things such as 'white privilege' are recognised, if possible removed, if not possible accounted for.

I don't consider myself 'woke' for one moment. I just consider myself as someone who needs to educate myself continuously about the world in which we live.
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