[nomadking]

Originally Posted by jfman

Never heard of international flights?

I think you'll find that Great Britain is an island, off of mainland Europe. Can easily have implemented airport screening.

The point is you wouldn't need to contact trace everyone within that 1.5% if we had the virus under control. Instead we decided to go for herd immunity week. Of course, you are happy to ignore these realities simply to defend the Government at all costs.

Once again - at what point does the death count reach a point where you will accept there has been ANY mismanagement by the Government?

The fact we hadn't confirmed human to human transmission is because we had no routine testing programme. This was "a mild flu".

Nobody had routine testing. Even South Korea was concentrating on testing those with symptoms and brought to their attention. SAME AS THE UK. Even WHO advice has CHANGED over time and with the increased knowledge.



Look at a map of the world. South Korea has North Korea to the north, China to the west, and Japan to the east. How many people would be travelling to/from those countries. The UK not only has visitors, but truck drivers etc, travelling around Europe. The UK had people coming in or returning, from all over the world(8m of them), including China. Most of them wouldn't have had detectable symptoms, not even a high temperature. How many other countries implemented the same regime as in South Korea. If the answer is most or even many(which it's not), then you might have a point. COVID-19 has features well beyond any previous pandemic experience. It is that that has caused the problems, even in South Korea.
30th Jan 2020.

Thermal scanning at airports detects less than 1 in 5 passengers arriving from a 12 hour flight who are infected with the new coronavirus, according to preliminary estimates from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine (LSHTM).

Over 80% not detectable.

Meanwhile, she notes that rushing to catch a flight or having an alcoholic drink could raise your external temperature.
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According to a 2011 study in the journal BMC Infectious Diseases, these machines correctly identify a passenger as febrile or non-febrile less than 70 percent of the time. This means healthy passengers could be stopped unnecessarily, and infected passengers could be getting on a plane.

As the case in Daegu, South Korea showed, just one infected person can be responsible for a huge number of infections before anybody notices. The city of 2.5m million went into voluntary lockdown. Now if instead you have 10 infected people bringing it into 10 UK cities, you should be able to see the difference that would bring in numbers, BEFORE there was anything noticeable going on. That ONE person triggered 61% of their cases. That's how much damage one undetectable person can cause.



The UK Blood Transfusion service identified that around 1.5% of Londoners

had been infected by early March, again before anything was noticeable. The tests were from the week of 23rd March, but the infection would've started 2 weeks earlier.


If you have to base planning everything on the most extreme of what might happen, where does it all end? Lockdown would have to be more severe and never-ending.