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Old 08-06-2020, 13:08   #142
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Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
All to often, in various instances, people just blindly latch onto comments by other people, without testing the truth and contradictions behind them.
Eg you can't go around making the ludicrous claims that because of White racism, that it's more dangerous to go out somewhere if you're black, or that more black people are being killed. How can it be White racism, when it's black people responsible for that violence? Just as in this case, you can't make the claim of racism, as 2 of the officers were not White, and one of them could easily have been the one whose actions may have caused the death(pressure on chest), or by chance been the one restraining the head(to avoid spitting?).



Just about everything is labelled as racist, therefore discrimination in favour of blacks must be imposed. How likely is it that nowadays that people Spielberg, Hitchcock, Scorsese, and so many other White male talents would have stood a chance? There are recent comments that certain TV series(eg Friends) would be more inclusive if made today. Why? Not unreasonable that 5 sets of White people would get together. Plenty of TV series, especially US ones, where the cast is almost exclusively Black, and uses certain words. Nobody bats an eyelid over that.


It is getting unbelievably sinister and scary, if you make the wrong comment, basically your career and life is over. Examples exist of where people have been bullied out, just because they don't support violence and thuggery.
I believe that you're confusing white privilege with racism. As before white privilege != racism.

I'm going to come back and write a longer reply, your post deserves it.

But there's a few initial points

1) We (and i mean this collectively) need to look at what causes Black on Black violence as Pierre and i were discussion earlier in the thread this is due to socio/economic reasons that are highly complex and need to be untangled.

2) So what if black people use words that white people shouldnt use. If you call your husband/wife 'strumpet' would you be happy for me to do the same? Of course you wouldn't because the relationship is different.

3) With hindsight several programs shouldn't have been made It aint half hot mum & mind your language are just two that i can think of, Fawlty Towers is up there as well. In the past few days Keith Lemon & David Walliams have come out and said they wouldn't make those programs now.

4) Change is scary, of that there's no doubt. but it will happen. History shows us continuously

Finally, why would anyone in their right mind support violence and thuggery ?

---------- Post added at 13:08 ---------- Previous post was at 13:07 ----------

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You did.

It suggests that all lives matter and that we are all equal which is what we should be striving for. It doesn't suggest that efforts should be spread equally.
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