Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking
If the problem is with White police, then how come in "Black" countries, eg Jamaica, the figures are not exactly low. In this recent incident, 2 of the officers were not White(J Alexander Kueng and Tou Thao). Around twice as many White people as Black people, are shot and killed by Police in the US. Although there is a number classified as "unknown".
|
Again the assumptions there. The issue that BLM and other organisations are raising in the US are about the culture within the police and other state and federal institutions. I don't believe anyone has said it's white police only, but a lot of the issues come from white police as the segregation and racism that plagues the US come from Americans with a European background for the most part.
It's the built in assumption that if you are black, you are immediately a threat, or require heavier handed tactics than if you're white. It's completely possible for someone from a BAME background to hold those views due to the environment they're in.
And as you brought up Jamaica - then that's also being raised as part of the current protests:
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...9?profile=1373
Quote:
|
“THE police are killing our children and our brothers are killing each other. Enough is enough!” was the cry of a 70-year-old Rastafarian woman who protested outside the United States Embassy in Liguanea, St Andrew, yesterday morning.
|
And about your 'more white people than black are killed by the police', that's true, but that's because there are more white people than black people in the US. This is the statistic you should be looking at:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-ethnicity-us/
Quote:
|
The rate of fatal police shootings in the United States shows large difference based on ethnicity. Among Black Americans, the rate of fatal police shootings between 2015 and June 2020 stood at 30 per million of the population, while for White Americans, the rate stood at 12 fatal police shootings per million of the population.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking
It's all about how you behave when cornered or under arrest. Most of us wouldn't face problems, as we were being arrested, because we recognise the futility of resisting and struggling. Not being under the influence of drink and/or drugs also help with that.
Anyone remember the Darcus Howe documentary, "Who you calling a ...".
|
That is a major generalisation. Many of the incidents do not involve violence or resistance on the part of those being arrested, and statistics that I can find do not back up the assumptions that black people being arrested are always more prepared for violence:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/
Quote:
Deaths Due to Use of Lethal Force by Law Enforcement
...
Victims were majority white (52%) but disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites. Most victims were reported to be armed (83%); however, black victims were more likely to be unarmed (14.8%) than white (9.4%) or Hispanic (5.8%) victims. Fatality rates among military veterans/active duty service members were 1.4 times greater than among their civilian counterparts.
|
The issues that the black and other minority communities can face is that the US police will approach a situation with an assumption that escalates the situation. Traffic stops with guns drawn for instance. It can be different elsewhere but built-in assumptions are not unique to the US.