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Originally Posted by jfman
Watch The country that beat the virus - a Channel 4 documentary to see what we’ve done vs South Korea. While not a fan of the title, it shows what routine, effective measures to contain pandemics apply to countries that lack English exceptionalism.
You’re also making up completely excessive and ridiculous requirements to simply claim we couldn’t do it. 2,000 people per night club? Where does it say South Korea have that?
Do you think South Korea only has one night club?
You’re clutching at the very end of a thin straw with your arguments here. And I’ve seen you copy and paste the same irrelevant evidence often enough to know you are being selective and ignoring the plethora of evidence and statistics out there to support the idea that South Korea have handled this well and England have not.
Given the daily differences and trends for infection and death counts in the devolved administrations I’m not sure it’s fair to tar them with the same brush. Of the 357 deaths added to the figures only 12 were in Scotland, 4 in Wales and 1 in Northern Ireland. With healthcare being a devolved matter it’s going to be interesting to see these figures move in the next weeks and months. No doubt England’s figure will be higher for “cultural” reasons or counting discrepancies as is the norm.
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I did watch it. I saw all the people wearing face masks as I said. I also referred to the person travelling to Japan via South Korea that was intercepted that was in that programme. They only had in the main, ONE point of introduction, IE China. By the time it arrived in the UK, it was coming in from just about everywhere, China, Germany, Italy, Austria etc. That meant MORE places around the UK where it was introduced and spread.
In general, in countries like Japan and South Korea, the people readily wear face masks. That can be seen EACH year with a "standard" flu outbreak.
As the programme said, The UK DID have contact tracing.
The UK response was based upon previous flu outbreaks which had been less serious. Even South Korea was caught out by their more serious MERS outbreak in 2015. That influenced their future planning. That also meant their society was more amenable to the level of contact tracing required. Which of their measures is accepted in the UK? Facial recognition on CCTV? No. Checking of credit card data? No. Checking of mobile phones? No. Publishing limited details of infected people? Not a chance.
If the MERS outbreak hadn't happened there previously, then even South Korea wouldn't have been prepared for COVID-19.
In the UK hand sanitisers wouldn't last long inside a lift. People have ripped them off the walls in hospitals.
The South Koreans abandoned contact tracing in the city of Daegu because the numbers involved was too large. The response of the people of the city(2.5m of them, think Birmingham) was to VOLUNTARILY stay at home. Yet at one hospital 100 out of 102 caught the virus. Not exactly a success story.
The overwhelming reason for the differences is the morons in this country, especially in the media. The outbreak in Daegu was largely down to a moron who initially refused to be tested.