24-04-2020, 19:13
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Re: [Updated] The UK’s future relationship with the EU
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Originally Posted by jfman
It's more your debating style.
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There's obviously more to fisheries than simply "they're our fish" there's a limited supply and they move. Fish also have a monetary value, especially fresh fish, so it's a reasonable trading chip for us to use access to get something we want in return (and vice versa).
That's the whole notion of international trade. It might not be as straightforward as money = goods but it's always going to be a thing for as long as we share the same sea.
Level playing field is another area where actually we probably agree with the EU. Would we want German subsidised industry to flood our markets with their goods? Of course not. Why would the EU settle for us not agreeing to state aid rules?
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There's obviously more to fisheries than simply "they're our fish" there's a limited supply and they move. Fish also have a monetary value, especially fresh fish, so it's a reasonable trading chip for us to use access to get something we want in return (and vice versa).
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I think you've pulled too narrow a meaning in your response to me remark. "Our fish" means our waters. Other than that, it is a potential trading chip. But do please remember, the big bully EU are standing on as tiny a proportion of their economy as we are; the issue is totemic as I'm sure you are aware. Trouble is that their negotiating approach is to remind us that they are very big and we are small.
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That's the whole notion of international trade. It might not be as straightforward as money = goods but it's always going to be a thing for as long as we share the same sea.
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Do we share the same sea? The sea is parcelled up into territorial waters and economic waters, all recognised under International Law.
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Level playing field is another area where actually we probably agree with the EU. Would we want German subsidised industry to flood our markets with their goods? Of course not. Why would the EU settle for us not agreeing to state aid rules?
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I understand your point, but you would know as well as I do that the EU doesn't want to UK to be more competitive than their stifled industries rather than the other way round. They are the ones insisting on a level playing field. Our Guvmin is not (although some might criticise that).
I just want to be shot of the EU and watch it tear itself apart in due course.
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