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Old 22-04-2020, 12:29   #2419
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Re: Coronavirus

Some good news

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/n...oved-ckh2s2mhj
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A consortium of British companies will make 15,000 new ventilators in the next few months to fill the NHS’s shortfall.

Ministers placed an unexpectedly large order yesterday for the Penlon ESO2 devices, which are the first to receive approval after Boris Johnson challenged industry to join the national fight against coronavirus.

The order will bring the number of ventilators in the NHS to more than 25,000. At the start of the pandemic it had only 8,000 and there were fears that hospitals would not have enough to treat the influx of patients.


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So it's perfectly acceptable for the EU to trot that excuse out, but when the Government say it, they get criticised and lambasted for not forward planning?
No, I have always said that it is not fair to criticise them for that - what I have criticised is not having the emergency just in case stocks in place, and not joining the EU procurement initiative so that we will get the PPE equipment quicker.

My post from the 18th

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I think the problem is that it is expected that, during a world-wide shortage of PPE, and an unforeseen requirement for PPE in Care Homes (the supply requirement went from a couple of hundred Trusts to over 58,000 organisations), there would/should be enought for everyone - this is a massive shift in requirements in a time of crisis, and a complex supply chain, mostly from overseas.

Could things have been done better - probably; does it help blaming people until we know the facts - probably not.

There have been shortfalls in lots of places - an example would be in Care Homes, where the group that my mum-in-law is in got supplies of PPE early in the crisis, whilst other Care Home organisations didn't; the other care homes shouldn't be blamed for not being as forward thinking as the one mum's in, because at the beginning very few people thought it would come to this. Should all the GP Surgeries, which are in effect private businesses, be blamed for not having ordered PPE equipment earlier?

In the vast complexity of Health and Social Care, whatever the Government does, it won't be enough - review afterwards, critique constructively during, but blaming is inappropriate at this stage, imho (especially without evidence, as in the comments about NHS managers).

From the Times
On the 13rh
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Reasonably balanced article in the Times today.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d...TM_1Imag_CR1_2

Washington Post view

https://s2.washingtonpost.com/camp-r...m=4&linktot=78

At this time, I think the Government made decisions based on what they thought was best for the country at that time, then changed when evidence within and without the country showed differently - I hope we learn from this, but any witch hunt will only make that more difficult.
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