[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Herd immunity is natural. Humans didn't invent it.

So is death, yet we do everything in our power to prevent it.

The government was very clear all along that the whole point of isolation was to slow down the virus so the NHS can cope. Did you miss that?

Which results in fewer deaths, despite your assertion that as yet you have provided no evidence for.

You have seen the rate at which the people started to come down with coronavirus. What makes you think that we can stop this in its tracks? Only a vaccine will stop it short and we are nowhere near getting that.

China, South Korea, Germany. Same way we stop any virus really.

All those people in care homes, with no visitors allowed and not going out anywhere, are still going down like flies.

Because it got in. That will be schools except rather than dying kids will take it back home to their families, their grandparents, etc.

That shows how impotent we really are at dealing with new viruses like this. The fact that we have managed to slow it down is a massive achievement. But it will get that 80% of the population, of that I have absolutely no doubt.

We are impotent because we weren't prepared and didn't act quickly enough. We had a unique opportunity as an island with controlled borders to quickly identify and reduce the spread but we did not.

We have a further opportunity here to learn from other European countries that are intending to ease their restrictions and allow that to inform our decision making.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That is completely unrealistic, jfman. Apart from crashing the economy, people won't stand for it. Even some vulnerable people I know are saying 12 weeks is quite bad enough and they don't want to spend their remaining days behind four brick walls.

I think you are just being provocative now.

A frankly laughable accusation from someone who just two posts back referred to people in care homes as 'dropping like flies'. Your anecdotal evidence is of no value Old Boy. None whatsoever.

I've explained over and over how the economy can be protected. The economy will tank, as Raab correctly pointed out, with a devastating second wave of the virus.

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Originally Posted by denphone

Listening to R4 this morning social distancing will be here probably for another 18 months or whenever the vaccine comes..

It's common sense.