[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jfman

There's been a number of articles saying it's going that way Seph. I don't have to say it, and given the number of people in the thread inclined to defend the Government at all costs it's not an effective use of my (plentiful) time.

I suppose what I am curious about is what would be a bad total that would make others in the thread think it has been mismanaged.

I'll be happy to come back and discuss when we see final figures and excess death counts. I'll be over the moon if we aren't the worst in Europe.

I understand what you've just said. In this situation there are different strands accounting for different things.

One strand is the overall count, which follows expected epidemic behaviour. The Guvmin, in following the science, isn't to be seriously criticised here, imo.

Another strand is the tragedy of deaths among selfless NHS workers, where the Guvimin should be criticised for the waffle and bullshit they've been putting out instead of coming clean from day 1 that they simply can't get the stuff that's needed due to worldwide demand.

Yet another strand is the deaths of transport workers for which the Guvmin can't be directly blamed. The bus companies couldn't get hold of protective gear and sanitisers but the Guvmin did ignore something that was predictable.

A further strand is what's going on in care homes. The Guvmin should be roundly criticised for not setting the Communities Secretary ("Three Homes") onto that

I suppose that in terms of strands, the Guvmin hasn't done all that well. But in terms of wider impact, they've done all that could be expected, imo.