Chris

Well here is a fundamental and probably irreconcilable difference between you and leavers (and a lot of remainers I suspect). It is a very peculiar idea of sovereignty that assumes a national government of necessity requires an external check on its power. We do of course have internal checks - principally, Parliament, and judges who determine whether government is properly exercising the powers legislated for it. Then every 5 years or so, the whole electorate casts its judgement on Parliament.

All these are internal to the United Kingdom, which is a sovereign nation state that, in common with almost every other sovereign nation state on earth, is the final arbiter of what goes on in its own territory. Only within the bizarre experiment that is the EU has national sovereignty been so traduced (the process being obfuscated by nonsensical terms like “pooled sovereignty” in order to try to hide what’s been going on).

I believe in this country and I simply lack the self-loathing instincts required to believe we need rescuing from our own government by an association of nations, almost all of which have been governed by a dictator within living memory. People who genuinely need rescuing from their own governments live in places where torture, extrajudicial punishment and corruption is endemic, if not industrial in scale. Such places undergo violent revolution sooner or later. Here in the UK, nothing could be further from the truth, and it requires a severe lack of perspective to think otherwise.

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