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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I’m quite certain that the sovereignty discussion was of a leaver/Remainer flavour. Both sides correct and neither accepting the other’s total view on what sovereignty entails.

You have just rekindled the representative vs direct democracy debate, which touches sovereignty particularly when parliamentary sovereignty pokes two fingers up to direct democracy.

I would have thought that Brexit has introduced a tradition that the people are worth consulting and that ruling elites should be so guided.




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That is a terrible thing to say. Your preceding paragraphs sought to justify that binary referenda are a folly. No they are not - avoiding them would be a patent display of government dodging an issue that needs to be put to the people.

‘Parliamentary democracy’ never occurred back then; only ‘parliamentary sovereignty’ happened. If you can’t see that then I’m worried.

As to buses and lies, both sides exaggerated their claims. Well after all that was exposed, the GE settled matters; the people had not been deceived.




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..... and btw, I am a Gina Miller fan. Everyone has the right to challenge government power in the courts.

If only she was trying to do that,in reality she was trying to stop brexit out of her own self interest.
Any hoo all the remainers treachery/ back stabbing /lies and scheming got them no where and democracy won the day albeit 3.5 years late.