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Old 15-12-2019, 19:09   #1952
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion

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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
I didn’t dismiss the idea of the US as a trading partner, just pointed out the obvious that they will be in a stronger negotiating position - you seem to regard this statement as negative, whilst I view it as realistic.

You also seem to think it’s a one way street, and that we have all the negotiating strengths with other countries- I hope you’re right, but I doubt it; they’re not going to accept anything other than trade deals which benefit them.

Still waiting for you to tell exactly what goods and services we are going to export to the USA, China, and India that will make up for 44% of our exports to the EU (around £350 billion)...
I don't have to, because once again (sigh) I have to remind you that we will still be trading with the EU after Brexit, so much, if not all of that 44% of exports will still exist. To read your posts, anyone would think that we were shutting up shop altogether with the EU, which is just ludicrous and fanciful. If the economists have been making the same assumptions as you have, no wonder their forecasts are pessimistic!

Obviously, the more powerful the country, the more clout they have, but we are one of the world's largest economies, a fact you dismiss as though it had no importance. You also imply that the UK would accept a trade deal that would be bad for us. Why would we do that?

I knew you were a pessimist, Hugh, but now I'm beginning to worry about you!

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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
Because in trade negotiations, it’s a major factor.
Strength comes into it, but it's about satisfying mutual interests.

We are pretty strong actually.

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Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
So what exactly does "level playing field" mean, and who controls and sets the "field"? If the UK wants to implement a change that helps and assists business, do the EU have to follow suit or would we be prevented from doing it in the first place? Take a wild guess. Does the EU insist on that for trade deals with other countries, eg Vietnam?
Nail on head! A 'level playing field' should only be about meeting EU specifications relating to standards.

Equality of employment laws, etc, should not apply to us once we are out of the prison that is the EU.
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