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Old 27-11-2019, 21:18   #2515
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Re: The state benefits system mega-thread.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter View Post
The management of the DWP give staff policies, procedures & guidance to work to. No doubt Government ministers have leaned on them to use the areas open to interpretation and reasonableness to the detriment of claimants. This is then cascaded down to frontline staff.

Eg is it 'reasonable' to sanction a man for 'failing to complete a medical assessment' because he had a heart attack in the middle of it? Most right thinking people would say no (even though the reason for the sanction is technically correct). I'm confident that DWP staff would have made a sensible decision in the past, but under Cameron's continuing 'stricter benefits regime', he was sanctioned for this.

Man with broken back has enough of being repeatedly found fit for work eventually kills himself:

https://welfareweekly.com/benefit-cl...r-work-by-dwp/
The heart attack case will be miscommunication between the assessor and the DWP or the DWP missed the reason. The DWP will have been informed the assessment wasn't completed. The assessor won't have known at the time that it was a heart attack. Even a hospital doesn't immediately know without further tests.


The "broken back" case doesn't specify too much. Eg Why wasn't the condition medically treated? When did it start?
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Mr Sycamore worked his whole life as a mechanic and handyman before a crippling back injury in his early 50s.
That would suggest before 2010, ie died in 2017 aged 62. So first turned down under Labour and their rules.

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The 58-year-old said it was the third or fourth time that Mr Sycamore had been declared "fit to work".
Although this should have helped his situation.
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On previous occassions he had provided additional evidence to the DWP to prove his was unable to continue working, and his benefit payments were reinstated on each of those occassions.

Not being able walk without significant discomfort isn't the only measure. Although back problems would also likely lead to problems using a manual wheelchair.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter View Post
It makes it all the more poignant when you see the faces of those killed by the welfare cuts/changes:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...terity-5642530
Any article that includes this:-
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But now it has been ordered by the Information Commissioner to disclose by early June the number of Incapacity Benefit and ESA claimants who have died between November 2011 and May 2014.
Cannot be taken seriously. They were all receiving benefits at the time.



If I asked for the number of deaths in Labour controlled councils, would that have any significance? Of course not.
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