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Old 04-11-2019, 10:47   #204
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
Democracy is the worst system, apart from all the others. Etc etc etc.

Yes, in a vote that is held with a binary question requiring a simple majority outcome, a win by 1 vote is the “will of the people” because that was the means by which the people agreed their will should be determined.

It really is quite a straightforward concept.

To keep this relevant to the election debate (ie not the Brexit referendum), we even had a referendum on alternative votes in parliamentary constituencies. It failed.
Thank you for proving my point. The whole basis of the 2016 vote was an immoral one: the socio-economic fate of an entire country possibly decided by 1 person.

Your other point also is flawed as you well know. The PR option in this referendum was deliberately chosen as the worse available:

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/2011_Uni...ote_referendum

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The decisive No vote continues to be cited as an endorsement of first-past-the-post and a rejection of proportional representation. The Conservative government response to a 2016–17 parliamentary petition demanding proportional representation said that "A referendum on changing the voting system was held in 2011 and the public voted overwhelmingly in favour of keeping the FPTP system." Tim Ivorson of the electoral reform campaign Make Votes Matter responded by quoting the petition's text that "The UK has never had a say on PR. As David Cameron himself said, the AV Referendum was on a system that is often less proportional than FPTP, so the rejection of AV could not possibly be a rejection of PR.
At the time of the referendum, three nations used AV for parliamentary elections: Australia, Papua New Guinea, and Fiji.

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I thought most profits were 'siphoned offshore' anyway, considering the amount of things that are foreign owned
And you agree with this?
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