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Old 27-10-2019, 19:21   #1713
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
An absolute irrelevance against the point you made!

I have to laugh at the English though, when you consider Old Boy incorrectly calling Jeremy Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser, surely the right of the Palestinian people or Irish people to govern themselves is the same?

If other people's blood is the price to pay in an armed cause so be it. Indeed, research shows that the English won't mind violence if it delivers Brexit. It's a queer paradox.

Your perversity knows no bounds, jfman. Whose blood is being spilt over Brexit?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
You've made a selective misrepresentation. Nomad's sentence was:

"If the EU was ever to introduce something that was actually beneficial to businesses, they wouldn't want anybody else to introduce it. The aim is to put the same restrictions on EU businesses, that the French and Germans put on their own businesses. They don't want anybody else to have an economic advantage over them."

i.e. by introducing 4 weeks annual leave and a maximum 48 hour week across the EU, they wanted to ensure that the level playing field was maintained - something anti-competitive. "Luckily" we gained an opt-out.



And what many do not understand is that the 'opt-outs' are very limited and restricted to only certain defined provisions.

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post

It's hardly right to create an unwanted, arbitrary deadline that nobody will take seriously in any case. Parliament, and the country, needs a general election. A false deadline and no agreement only sees a further extension, a later election and a later conclusion to the whole debacle.

The EU get accused of forcing countries into second referendums until they get the result they want. In this case they can leave us to this farce all by themselves.
Deadlines are only ineffective if no-one takes them seriously. As a negotiator myself, I have found deadlines to be very effective - they concentrate minds.

But you have to mean it when you set a deadline.

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Originally Posted by ianch99 View Post
Your position is expected as you are happy with any cost to the country to achieve the result you crave for. For the majority of the country, their view is different, they do not wish to be poorer and so No Deal needs to go.

Britain will not be poorer. More lies from Project Fear, stoked by the economic forecasts that give attention only to the benefits we will lose.

What about those we will gain? You can't get your head around that, can you?
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