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Originally Posted by Hugh
NF isn’t happy with BJ
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Unfortunately for Nige, he won’t do as nearly as well as he thinks he may in a GE. Certainly not in Tory seats.
Most sensible Tory voters know that a vote for the Brexit party is a wasted vote ( unless you live in a labour stronghold)
And it is evident that Boris has tried his best to get the deal through, if it fails he will squarely blame Labour.
Die hard Labour voters that voted Leave but cannot bring themselves to vote Tory will vote for the Brexit party.
Tory leave voters will vote Tory. Tory remain voters will not vote Labour, some may vote LibDems but I doubt any great numbers.
I would expect Labour to be spanked in a GE, which is why they don’t want one. But if they continue to vote against a GE and against a Brexit deal, they are just compounding the swell of frustration from many of their voters in their Northern heartlands so much so that there will never be a good time for them to fight an election.
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Originally Posted by jfman
It's contradictory to claim there is a will to pass this Bill. If such a will existed there would be no wrecking amendments - each and every one would be voted down.
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I take your point, but I have been watching Parliament for most of the day today. And I have heard several MPs advise ( from all three parties) hat they will vote for the bill if it has a referendum attached to it.
That scenario is entirely plausible
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There's no will for this Parliament to deliver Brexit. If there was we'd be spending the next two days debating this Bill. If it survived intact, or broadly intact, Johnson would have gone down the minor technical extension approach.
It won't survive.
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GE then, look forward to it.