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Old 29-09-2019, 18:06   #738
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
This is not about definitions from the OED or Collins, Old Boy. It's the impact that this type of strong and emotive language has on some people when in common use by people in positions of power.
Except it is only strong when used in a certain context. If you choose to take it in its worse possible meaning, then you have misinterpreted the intent.

If I wanted to be cynical, I could say that the misinterpretation was deliberate.

So I won't.



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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
It’s obvious Boris means it in exactly the nationalist context.
No, it is not. You have no evidence for this. Certainly, I have consistently used the word to indicate that those trying to overturn the referendum result are traitors to the electorate and to the principles of democracy.

Where has anyone in authority claimed they are traitors to their country? No-one.

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Originally Posted by ianch99 View Post
Your attitude, echoed by others, is based on assumption that you, and by inference, your position regards the current situation is without flaw or weakness. Whether you have arrived here through your own personal deliberations or by the acceptance of opinions from the various Leave leaning media sources probably is secondary. What is important is that this attitude, currently being espoused by Cummins et al. in No 10, is a sinister one.

It is sinister in that is allows no fault or challenge. It ignores the many facts that would, if presented alongside, would render it impotent. The subliminal message of this campaign is to encourage the weak minded to violence, rioting, etc. Moreover, it presents the challenge that if you attempt to argue with this process, the consequences would be dire.

Johnson's behaviour in the Commons is no accident. It is part of the plan. 2016 proved the playbook works. Just reuse it again.
Sinister describes Corbyn to a tee. And McDonnell.

There is nothing to fear about a no deal Brexit apart from fear itself.
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