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Old 29-09-2019, 15:43   #700
jfman
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
Do come off it, who are you kidding? We are surrendering because we are being forced into a close relationship with the EU and on their terms.

If you don't like wartime rhetoric, and it's arguable as to whether the word 'surrender' is, then maybe you should be equally critical of Labour members who call Conservative members 'Nazis'.

Brexit will not be extended further as Boris has pledged not to do so. You would soon be cackling away if he failed to honour that pledge, which is exactly what you and the opposition want him to do.

Boris may not want a deal, but the reason for that is that not being tied closely to the EU will give us the maximum freedom in trading with the rest of the world.

Substitute your own reasons if you want to, but they are not true although they may give you some comfort in thinking that.
I didn’t say I didn’t like the wartime rhetoric - I said it was a matter of time before it had a dangerous effect on a moron. The death of Jo Cox for one being an event someone has clearly bought too much into propaganda. There’s idiots out there, and you know it.

Nobody is “forcing” us into a close relationship with the EU. If we accept a deal it’s because we do so on our own terms. Be that a Johnson, Corbyn or other Government.

If Boris extended for the purposes of a General Election he’d pull the rug from under his opponents, have the possibility of delivering Brexit and a majority Government for five years. If that’s what the public wants. Any cackling would be short lived on that basis, and I think acting in the best interests of the country is worth more than delivering Brexit on an absolutely arbitrary date.

Then again as I said his donors stand to make hundreds of millions of pounds all over again - so why take the risk when you could just crash out.
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