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Old 30-08-2019, 22:59   #1519
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Re: PM Boris forms a government

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Errr ... you’re usually a little more measured than this. Is the constitutional chaos getting to you?
No, I know people who get impacted by this rubbish process and it's terrible.

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There are a couple of problems here. The first is, how do we say people have met the “alleged requirements” if they can’t provide the evidence? What evidence are you leaning on in order to judge this case?
How many people actually have solid evidence they've been here for a long time? It turns out the Government do not seem to be able to refer to their own tax records half the time even though they claim they can so often applicants need to find their own proof and if you've lived here for decades chances are you haven't kept meticulous records of these details.

People can try to find mortgage statements, bank statements, whatever they can but it's never clear if this will be enough to satisfy the person judging these things. This is worse for people with less conventional working arrangements since P60s e.t.c are the best evidence but even then they request additional evidence you were in the country for the duration of that tax year.

Turning around to people who've never had to question their right to be here and demand they provide evidence of that is an awful way to treat people.

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Second, if she has met the requirements but her application has failed because of an excessively rigid application of the rules, how does that amount to politicians lying? Are you (or Reuters) suggesting a systematic programme of denying settled status to people who ought to qualify, in order to keep the numbers down?
I removed that, presumably while you were posting, because I felt it went too far but there isn't a doubt in my mind they had no idea if people would be fine and just didn't care. It was a game to them, the assurances a soundbite to help manage a risk in the campaign.

But the politicians I was referring to are in charge now and have yet to make it clear what happens when we leave. I know of EU residents that aren't applying in case they get rejected but at the same time this might cause a problem for their work, for getting back in the country and for the NHS.

There will be loads of EU citizens that either 1) fall foul of the system or 2) don't apply come October 31st.

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