Thread: PM Boris forms a government
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Old 21-08-2019, 20:48   #1282
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
Michael Gove is another buffoon but I don't think he's a racist.... He's biding his time till it all implodes,, not long now.
He's not a buffoon, either. He is very intelligent. But also rather strange.

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
There is a realistic potential for a compromise on the backstop. It would have to meet these standards:
  • Allow Boris Johnson to say he has won a concession
  • Allow Ireland to save face
  • Avoid the prospect of a hard border in Ireland

Now I am not sure what solution that would be. In the end if standards diverge after the transition period then you need customs checks and 'blockchain' is not an answer. But you can kick that problem into the long grass with some clever wording whereby everyone understands the issue needs to be resolved without those checks and is confident it will be.

I still think it will take the form of a cleverly worded way of saying in the event of no agreement after the transition period the U.K Government gets to decide between continuing the transition or diverging without N.Ireland.

Essentially what the EU offered a year or so ago. The EU gets to say they got what they wanted - especially Ireland - and Boris got rid of the backstop. DUP might not be happy though.
The EU needs to concede that the backstop will be in place for two years or when the new trade agreement becomes operational, whichever is the earlier.

Why would that be a problem? There certainly won't be a backstop if there's a no deal.

Ireland need to get their act together and start to get real about this. Posturing won't get them anywhere. They are just a little country attempting to have their day on the world stage. If they continue like this, it will all end in tears. But it won't be the UK that's weeping.

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Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
I'm not.wrong though am I? Deal or amended deal, we'll be worse off. That's why you, like a sensible Gent, voted to remain.
We will be worse off only if we are tied in pepetuity to the backstop.

I don't see why you have this perverse attraction to the EU. It is an appalling set-up and we will be well shot of them.
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