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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Pull your finger out ,try putting "your" back into it and quit moaning that old people have every thing that you want  |
Why don't you try again? This time with something sensible. Go on, you can do it! We believe!!
BTW, I am old ...
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Although you've decried "sound bites"the term "baby boomer" is just that and highly offensive - although I know you did not intend any offence. These people essentially repopulated the UK after WW2.
You are right - the system is broken, albeit that it is the same system in force since 1951. That system worked well up to around 1992 which is when the EMU crisis broke. Since then the economic dynamics across the world have changed and this has affected us (within the same system) not to mention the huge increase in UK population that has imposed serious strain on our public services at the time when the economic position is at its nadir.
Where I probably differ from you, is that the system is not specifically broken for the reasons you have given. It has been broken by the politicians refusing to deliver the Referendum result - public trust has been lost. That is a very serious position.
How to repair the system? For a start, at the next GE, there should be a single alternative vote.
Turning to your assessment of why the system is broken, I don't see how any system can deal with the psychology of power, the slice of power that each MP wants leading to the ultimate trip for some of them. DO we need a benevolent dictator? Possibly but that won't happen. We won't get honest politicians - they have become increasingly dishonest since 1997 - all of them.
I fear there is no answer.
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Maybe you take offence easily? The Baby Boomer term is not a sound bite rather it describes a generation that had advantages long since removed from the current one. This needs to be recognised. It is an important backdrop to the current attitudes of these people today. BTW, I am a Baby Boomer myself ..
I appreciate your engagement in the points I raised. It is refreshing when compared to some who just snipe ..
We need to step back and above Brexit. Brexit is a symptom of the failed system we are inhabiting rather the cause. Your suggestions are good: PR would go a long way to normalising politics. The corruption point: so true. Far too many politicians although eager to do good at first are ground down by the system and end up as bottom feeders waiting for the time to get their pay off i.e. directorships, plum seats on quangos, peerages, etc.
We should introduce laws precluding post-Parliament "payoffs" for minimum of X years and pay the MP's a decent salary while they serve. Remove the tie in between lobby groups and politics and you increase the likelihood that MP's will work to serve the nation rather than work to serve themselves.