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Originally Posted by Damien

I am just stating my impression on our circumstances. Eventually a deal will have to be done with the EU and the reality is they were now going to be pressing in their own best interests.

It is utterly naive not to assume that anyone will attempt to disadvantage us when it comes to trade negotiations. EU, US, China. All will be trying to use their leverage to get a better deal for them.

You can't throw the toys out of the U.K. Pram every time this happens.

It's the EU we're leaving, not the US, Japan or China. We have to deal with the EU's behaviour and we have to play our cards right, which we haven't done. We have the 39 billion and we are net importers of their stuff; those cards have to be played.

The EU is meddling with our constitutional arrangements by insisting on the Backstop and Macron has threatened to keep the Backstop on if we don't give up our fishing grounds; the US and China wouldn't do that. The EU would have control over us due to the Backstop.

You really shouldn't be an apologist for the EU (you'll deny being an apologist but it's how you come across).