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Originally Posted by ianch99
I agree, Andrew. Compromise is, however, a dirty word now. The populist approach which places spin over substance is dominant. So many people, for different reasons, are happy with a Hard Brexit. Most are not questioning how will it impact their personal situation. They are just repeating the dogma sound bites but not asking the really important questions e.g. "Show me exactly why I will not be poorer?"
For a nation that had a global reputation for pragmatism and common sense, we have basically lost it, big style.
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Your argument, such as it is, is predicated on a basis on certainty and entitlement.
Certainty:
The Leave voters believe, not beyond reasonable doubt but beyond *any* doubt that they have right on their side. History tells us that is a recipe for things that nations tend to regret.
Entitlement:
They believe that an ill judged and ill conceived referendum result gives the Leave side an incontrovertible mandate to impose a national structural & economic change based on a vote that had no minimal turnout and a legal result that could be decided by a single person's vote. They also think they have no need to accommodate the wishes and concerns of 48% of the electorate that voted Remain. The 'Winner Takes All" attitude is why we are in this mess.
On both counts, no surprise here, I think they are wrong. They have every right to believe they are correct and I have every to believe (and articulate) why they are wrong.
I totally "get it" ..
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Same could be said of you. Always thinking your view is right. You are not.
Still peddling the project fear bullshit, still trying to delegitimise a Democratic process because you don’t agree with the result and so is Hugh.
The argument about staying and leaving is done with. The majority of people voted to leave, they can see past the lies and project fear from the Remainers. We’ve voted to leave, three times now, that is democracy, you keep going on about people being poorer, utter bullshit. You’re just a sheep following the negative Remainer narrative that leaving will be bad for Britain. It will not, the people voted out so we should leave.
We do not need to be in a corrupt union that mocks us and scorns at us and treats us like shit, why you Remainers want to be associated and Remain in this disgusting bloc is beyond me. They have handicapped us for 40+ years and we can be free of them and stop paying the absolute con job fee to be in their ugly corrupt club.