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Originally Posted by ianch99
Your argument, such as it is, is predicated on a basis on certainty and entitlement.
Certainty:
The Leave voters believe, not beyond reasonable doubt but beyond *any* doubt that they have right on their side. History tells us that is a recipe for things that nations tend to regret.
Entitlement:
They believe that an ill judged and ill conceived referendum result gives the Leave side an incontrovertible mandate to impose a national structural & economic change based on a vote that had no minimal turnout and a legal result that could be decided by a single person's vote. They also think they have no need to accommodate the wishes and concerns of 48% of the electorate that voted Remain. The 'Winner Takes All" attitude is why we are in this mess.
On both counts, no surprise here, I think they are wrong. They have every right to believe they are correct and I have every to believe (and articulate) why they are wrong.
I totally "get it" ..
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Well you obviously don’t get it, or just can’t read as that waffle you have just typed out has nothing to do with the point I was making.
The point being that regardless of who you may think is right or wrong -
(and you can whinge all day long about the legitimacy of the referendum as you have just done above, it is gone, it happened, as I tell my kids crying about it won’t change it - they seem to understand the concept and they’re 8 & 4 respectively)
- doesn’t matter. Leavers and Remainers are now entrenched in their positions. All the information is out there, no one is now going to change their minds and the longer this goes on the more hardcore will the positions become. Leave at all costs/ remain at all costs.
So pointing out terrible and damaging a Brexit and particularly a no-deal Brexit is now just a waste of time you’re not going to convert anyone to your point of view and vice versa.
As mentioned previously and in the Sky piece, compromise is required, but compromise is a vote loser. The WA was compromise and both sides hated it.
We are at an impasse and I don’t think it will be resolved. The EU are adamant the WA will not be revisited and that is all that is on the table.
Perhaps a new President of the Commission and Council may be prepared to re-open talks but if not Oct 31st will come around very quickly and if nothing has changed what do you do? Ask for another extension? For what?
I honestly have no clue how or when this is going to end, I don’t think anyone does.