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Originally Posted by Damien
Well as I said for the major parties their donations are declared routinely. The exception being Change UK and there are also questions about the Led by Donkeys' campaign. There were a lot of questions about the former when they started, they even incorporated themselves in such a way to obscure their donations at first.
The thing is I am perfectly fine with people demanding to know where their funding comes from. It's important to know. Why would I defend them just because they support Remain? I am happy with supporting Remain just as you are with supporting Leave. I don't feel compelling to suit up to defend the political parties or politicians themselves. I don't trust Change UK, the Liberals and certainly not Labour. |
Odd isn't it, attempting to use whataboutery to excuse people's behaviour, it's also odd expecting people to defend that behaviour just because they happen to favour their side of the argument, a pox on all their lying, corrupt, dishonest political houses imo
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Originally Posted by Mick
Oh here is that “Manifesto” term being used again, um, pray tell, why a Manifesto is so important, in today’s political climate, given none of two main parties stuck to theirs, meanwhile, Libdems, are also hypocrites, given they pledged not to increase tuition fees but then did, once they got a slice of power in 2010.
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The manifesto pledges were for if they gained power they didn't, they were the junior partners in a coalition who I think did exceptionally well to get 80% of that manifesto you so easily and readily dismiss into acts of parliament and to achieve that they had to compromise, perhaps if our politicians today had been ready to compromise we wouldn't be in the mess we find ourselves in, was all do avoidable as well
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I'm not at all uncomfortable and our Nige denies wrongdoing. However, if he does get criticised for this in the end, it does not change the argument for Brexit, does it?
As I said, the expenses issue is a diversion from where the future of our country lies.
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Our nige, seriously? Possibly the most ludicrous thing I've seen posted on here in a while
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Originally Posted by Mick
Oh be under no illusion, no discomfort here at all, totally satisfied with which party I support, no amount of smearing will stop me. Brexit must happen, that’s what democracy decided. So I will support whichever party has the balls to stand up to the EU, which was seen on secret tape, boasting that it had turned us in to a colony.
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That's the part you bring up from that tape, the boasting? I was much more interested in what concessions they were prepared to give us at the start that we didn't ask for, i had a lot of sympathy for Mrs May but it's gone now and I revert to my original stance that I warned you all about when she got the top job,.that she wasn't up to it and uses delegation as a way of shielding herself from criticism