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Old 17-04-2019, 09:45   #1642
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Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
There are a number of problems with this.

First of all, you’re asking him to prove a negative. The assertion is that No Deal Brexit is damaging and it is for those who believe it to make their case.

Second, if you think politics is merely a matter of drawing conclusions based on facts then you’ve been missing the point, and to be honest I’m curious how you would attempt explain the existence of at least three major parties, with three enormously different policy platforms, in the same Commons chamber.

Moral and ideological considerations are always at play in policy formation, as well they should be. There are no facts that exist in isolation and weighing them, and assigning importance to them, is a task for moral beings, not statistical machines.
You are missing the point here. I am not making an arbitrary definition of the machinery of politics and how decisions are made, strategy formed, etc.

The point is this, and it has always been the point: we are not betting on the 3:30 at Kempton. We are deciding the future of the country and the generations that will inherit it. Some may think that some arm waving conclusions that "we will be fine" suffices. I, and many others, do not.

If you want to jump into the void show, beyond reasonable doubt, why it is not a risk. If you can't, then you have all your work ahead of you. You quite rightly assert that this process is a task for "moral beings" ...

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
He stood for election with a mandate to leave the EU. So in your opinion, it's ok to disregard that manifesto ciommitment? Of couse not, that would be the politics of deception.

So of course it was his job.
Can you show me where this manifesto promises to leave with No Deal? Here you go:

2017 Conservative Party Manifesto

TL;DR

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The best possible deal for Britain as we leave the European Union delivered by a smooth, orderly Brexit.
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