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Old 24-03-2019, 20:57   #536
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by papa smurf View Post
Oh i don't know did you not see that thicket of idiots in London yesterday.
I don't think they've reached London yet.

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
On March 29th? April 12th? or another date?

You are relying on them to not reverse it. Or delay it in perpetuity. As I said prepare for disappointment. The first step was always enabling a delay and that has been achieved.
Exactly. 75% of Parliament is against Brexit. I think it may happen but not on the terms that Rees-Mogg and chums have pretended are possible.

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Great article here from former diplomat Robert Cooper. Including
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Britain triggered Article 50 without having a clue what we wanted or how we were going to get it. The European Commission, by contrast, knew exactly what it was doing: the diplomats in Brussels are masters of negotiation. After all, they have been doing it for years — for us, and for the rest of the EU. Notice that they take direction from their political masters at the start, consult them as they go along, and return to them at the end. The commission is dealing with sovereign states. Our government might consider doing the same with its sovereign parliament
Another lesson: the EU is bigger than Britain. If we leave without an agreement, that is a nuisance for the EU — about 10 per cent of their trade is with us. For us, they represent 49 per cent and no deal risks being a catastrophe. The idea that this is an important bargaining chip is ridiculous. One day — we cannot ignore our neighbours forever — we will be back at the table, helpless on our side, furious on theirs.
Why is the EU being so nasty? We thought we were friends. So we were: in the EU you do business with each other every day, no matter what. In the days when we were hardly speaking to the Germans about Iraq, we still worked together to stop other members cheating on milk quotas. You never break up completely. The EU is a system of compulsory friendships.
https://www.ft.com/content/5f3df8bc-...6-79eaea5acb64
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