[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Seriously?

In NK, the gun to the head isn’t "in quotes" or metaphorical, it’s actual.

You need to take a long hard serious look at your world-view if you actually think that we have a less free democracy than North Korea.

Not for voting it isn't. They only have one candidate per area, which might be seen the same as very safe seats in the UK.


Regardless, it is still a total corruption of democracy to say "vote for this or else something worse will be put in its place".

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Originally Posted by Chris

Nope ... outside the Treaty of Rome, outside the acquis, outside the customs union and the single market. That’s leaving the EU. Whatever we agree to in the WA is a transitional arrangement to bridge the next 18 months or so. After that, we give and take as befits our mutual interest with the EU.

We are permanently outside of, and no longer bound by the acquis communautaire, and in no further danger of having national sovereignty eroded by qualified majority vote.

The WA continues the single market, customs union, freedom of movement, obeying EU rules, obeying the CJEU. We will still be bound by the EUs competence(ie legal authority).

RECOGNISING that, even if Union law will be applicable to and in
the United Kingdom during the transition period, the specificities of the
United Kingdom as a State having withdrawn from the Union mean that it
will be important for the United Kingdom to be able to take steps to
prepare and establish new international arrangements of its own, including
in areas of Union exclusive competence, provided such agreements do not
enter into force or apply during that period, unless so authorised by the
Union,

The provisions of this Agreement and the provisions of Union law made
applicable by this Agreement shall produce in respect of and in the United
Kingdom the same legal effects as those which they produce within
the Union and its Member States.
...
2. The United Kingdom shall ensure compliance with paragraph 1,
including as regards the required powers of its judicial and administrative
authorities to disapply inconsistent or incompatible domestic provisions,
through domestic primary legislation
3. The provisions of this Agreement referring to Union law or to concepts
or provisions thereof shall be interpreted and applied in accordance with
the methods and general principles of Union law.
4. The provisions of this Agreement referring to Union law or to concepts
or provisions thereof shall in their implementation and application be
interpreted in conformity with the relevant case law of the Court of Justice
of the European Union handed down before the end of the transition
period.
5. In the interpretation and application of this Agreement, the United
Kingdom's judicial and administrative authorities shall have due regard to
relevant case law of the Court of Justice of the European Union handed
down after the end of the transition period.