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Old 12-03-2019, 15:15   #8391
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
If the EU is supposedly so eager to have a deal that removes the backstop, why isn't there a specific end date, instead of an open ended one? The UK has already shown "good faith" that we are trying to come up with an acceptable arrangement.


Is there anywhere else in the world, outside of any trade agreement and/or security issues, where one country demands that another sovereign state obey certain conditions in connection with it's border?
The whole thing is a nonsense, to my mind. If the EU meant what they said about neither side wanting the backstop, and if introduced it would be for the minimum time possible, they should jolly well have entered into a legal agreement to confirm that. The fact that they won't do this speaks for itself. The EU is conducting these negotiations in bad faith.

I know people are terrified at the prospect, but we really need to leave without a deal. Even just saying that this is the road we are now on will shower the EU refuseniks with cold water and they would at last wake up to the reality of their intransigence.

The EU will charge us for any extension of the Brexit date, and without a concrete plan in mind, they may well not agree it anyway as that would not solve anything.

Given that the EU have not come up with any legal assurances that clarify the UK's right to time-limit the backstop, MPs will vote down the deal tonight.

So unless we go for the 'no deal' option, there is nowhere else to go. All other options would be unacceptable to the electorate as this would not involve leaving the EU.

Interestingly, Jacob Rees Mogg believes there is a way of maintaining the status quo while a new trade deal with the EU is negotiated.

On 10 May, Jacob Rees Mogg stated:

"If you are in a negotiation for a free trade agreement, you can maintain your existing standards for ten years under WTO rules. So we have ten years from the point at which we leave the European Union to negotiate a free trade agreement with the EU which would mean we can carry on with our zero tariffs."

If he is right on this, leaving without a deal would be far better than the withdrawal agreement. Maybe that is what we should be getting a legal opinion on. We all know the score on the backstop, so no legal confirmation needed on the blindingly obvious.
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