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Originally Posted by jfman
“Leave means leave” is one of the most pointless and useless contributions Theresa May brought into the discussion.
It once again ignores the broad range of outcomes that all satisfy the definition of leave. All the way from Brexit in name only to crash out on WTO terms.
You have your vision of what you want leave to look like. However in conveying it to the forum it’s impossible to claim it represents the opinion of 17.4 million people. Which is exactly what you claimed it did - then denied it!
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You don't like the term 'leave means leave' because it is so straight forward, simple and easy to comprehend.
We are not going to be cowed by remainers who deliberately try to complicate matters, which I have to say they have done with great success. 'Leave means leave' effectively leads to the disintegration of these remainer arguments.
The Norway solution does not mean leave. The EFTA solution does not mean leave. Another referendum would at the very minimum delay leave, as would a General Election. Corbyn's solution which would require us to remain in the Customs Union does not mean leave.
We were clearly told that if we left the EU, we would be able to forge our own trade deals. Only a clean break would achieve this.
In the end it boils down to a clean break with trade deals being negotiated with other countries including the EU or a withdrawal agreement which acts as a bridge between where we are now and where we want to be (that is, with trade deals including the EU). Those are the only real leave solutions. All the others you talk about are half-baked neither in nor out arrangements or barefaced cheek attempts to overturn the democratic result.
We see right through it and in the end, it won't work. We are going to leave, end of.