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Originally Posted by Mick
And 17.4 Million beat that Yes count by a small margin.
So - Yes it is biggest mandate issued by a Democratic process!!!
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You are still wrong I am afraid. The definition of a democratic mandate is not the absolute number that voted but rather the percentage of the available electorate that voted for the motion. The UK has a larger population than in 1975 so the electorate is larger in numeric terms.
By your simplistic definition, the USA is "more" democratic than us because more people voted a particular way in the election.
Your approach to this issue, like others, mirrors the Leave campaign and all that led up to it. Take a fact and re-spin it into an alternative "fact" and then shout it from the rooftops, endlessly, as the "truth" until enough people start thinking it really is the truth.
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Originally Posted by Mick
The UK did not get a choice on joining what the EU came to exist as today, we can thank John Major for that, for signing the Maastricht Treaty and basically giving the EU more powers over their laws than our British laws.
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Again, incorrect. In 1975, we were told about the increased political union:
UK Voters knew the 1975 Referendum was about both an ‘economic & political union’ with the rest of Europe
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It is clear that the majority of people voting in the 1975 referendum knew the UK would benefit from being in the EEC, and that the EEC was both a ‘political & economic’ union of member states.
In 1967 the then Prime Minister Harold Wilson said to the House of Commons:
“But whatever the economic arguments, the House will realise that, as I have repeatedly made clear, the Government’s purpose derives, above all, from our recognition that Europe is now faced with the opportunity of a great move forward in political unity and that we can and indeed must — play our full part in it.” Prime Minister Harold Wilson, 2 May 1967. Source: Hansard
In 1972 the then Prime Minster Edward Heath said:
“The community which we are joining is far more than a common market. It is a community in the true sense of that term. It is concerned not only with the establishment of free trade, economic and monetary union and other major economic issues, important though these are — but also as the Paris Summit Meeting has demonstrated, with social issues which affect us all — environmental questions, working conditions in industry, consumer protection, aid to development areas and vocational training.” Source: Illustrated London News. Prime Minister Edward Heath, December 1972
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Originally Posted by Mick
Talking of mallets - Do I need to start swinging my ban mallet/hammer ???
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On what grounds?