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Originally Posted by ianch99
Wrong again. The 1975 Referendum on the European Community (Common Market) had a bigger mandate:
17,378,581 voted yes out of an electorate of 40,086,677. This equates to approx 43% of the electorate versus. 37% for the 2016 referendum
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And 17.4 Million beat that Yes count by a small margin.
So - Yes it is biggest mandate issued by a Democratic process!!!
Couple of issues which totally negates your point above, totally:-
- Six Million more people were eligible to vote in 2016 than in 1975.
- The EU in 2016, as it is known as, vastly different to what it was 41 years earlier. People were not voting for the same things because they were not the same!!!
- 37% is an erroneous figure.
- 52% beats 48%
Approx, 13 Million people who were eligible to vote in 2016 EU Referendum, but did not because they did not care either way or just could not be arsed to, completely blows the crap out of that 37% figure rubbish.
The UK did not get a choice on joining what the EU came to exist as today, we can thank John Major for that, for signing the Maastricht Treaty and basically giving the EU more powers over their laws than our British laws.
As with the EU gaining more powers since then, came the total corruption from within the EU.
The British people made the correct choice to leave such a corrupted establishment but they had to wait nearly 24 years to get a chance to say no, we do not want to be in this corrupted club, which is what it is!
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Originally Posted by ianch99
OB, you need to calm down. It really is simple. Let me try and explain:
some people voted Leave voted as you did i.e. to leave a political arrangement they have a ideological hatred of. Fine no problem so far.
some people voted Leave having researched the pros and con and concluded they were better off out. Again no problem. No quite the same but again no problem.
some people voted Leave as a protest and actually did not wish to Leave only to make a point.
some people voted Leave because they were persuaded by the Leave campaign that they would be better off and this was a win-win situation for them.
some people voted Leave because they do not like foreign people coming here and working in the UK
some people voted Leave because they had listened to the media they subscribe to and believed the lies told to them over decades of misinformation
some people voted Leave because they believe the promises of the post-brexit low regulation, low tax, free market economy sold to them by the Tories (they are wrong btw)
some people voted Leave assuming that they would not be worse off financially and would not face any hardships
some people voted Leave happy to see an economic downturn and job losses as a price worth paying. Worth noting that these people are, almost without exception, the people that will not be impacted by said consequences.
Are you seeing a pattern here? It is a pattern of people voting Leave for many different reasons .. reasons that include valid ones, xenophobic ones, stupid ones, and deceitful ones.
Welcome to the Pleasuredome! Now pass me that Mallet of Loving Correction  |
Only you have not corrected anything... Just insulted in a pathetic, patronising way. Talking of mallets - Do I need to start swinging my ban mallet/hammer ???
Now, where were we...
You have not asked all 17.4 Million people why they voted to leave, so your reasoning behind why they did, as displayed in the quote above, is Remainer driven illogical and insulting nonsense.
Perhaps I can vouch why I voted to leave the EU and still would (And I don't doubt for one second, other Brexiteers are with me on this), because I do actually want to leave the EU!
I was not misguided, I did not follow any misinformation.
I do have a pair of eyes and I can see for myself just how corrupt the EU is.
It's not xenophobic, it wasn't stupid, it was not ideological hatred, although I do actually legitimately hate the EU, it's not ideologically driven hate, I just cannot stand being in a corrupted con job club, which is exactly what the EU is.
We pay vast sums, in which they take a cut and then pass back to us, they are not funding us, when it's our money they're passing about and I am sick of these funding claims being made by some of you Remainers. The EU does not fund shit in the UK, we are a NET Contributor. We hand the cash to them, they hand some of it back and tell us what to spend it on.
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
Well, apart from, freedom of movement, right to reside, protection of food standards, collaboration on scientific research, cheaper travel. workers rights. too name but a few.
Yup, we are not getting anything from the romans , sorry, the EU
It's not always about a fiscal benefit.
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Missed this earlier - Absolute rubbish, none of those require to be in a union to gain such benefit.
Cheap holidays, don't need them, I get them going to other places in the world, at a reasonable discount - clue, the world is a much bigger place than any other country in the EU.
